BILLY: My background in filmmaking is a long road, as are most peoples who pursue this field. I got my college degree in Broadcast Journalism and worked in TV news for 5 years. Then I started my own production company doing TV commercials, web marketing videos, music videos, short films, etc.
I wrote and directed The Jailhouse in 2009. That was my first big feature film and I learned a lot from that. In between that movie and The Terrible Two (2017) I’ve learned so much about filmmaking and storytelling in general and I feel that knowledge helped me tremendously in creating what we think is an entertaining film in The Terrible Two.
Where did the idea come from and what was the process for getting the script ready to shoot?
BILLY: My wife and I bought a house the year before we did the movie and the first time we walked through the house I noticed the amount of space in the house to move around and have lights, cameras, crew, etc. So I said to her that we would buy the house but on one condition.....that I was going to film a movie in it. She agreed but didn't believe me.
A year later I was kicking her and my girls out for 2 weeks (figuratively speaking) and we had a full crew ready and turned the house into a movie set. My wife Mollie was a real trooper to allow us to do that and for that I'm very appreciative.
As far as getting the script ready to shoot I had a really knowledgeable producer and first assistant director named Jonathan Landau who helped me out tremendously in tying up all the loose ends for production and tightening up the script so that it would be ready to make a good movie.
The whole team we put together was amazing considering the fact that we had a very low budget on the film.
At what point did you decide to shoot in your own house and what impact did that have on the scripting?
BILLY: As I said above, the house was the basis for the entire movie so the script was built around the location. I like to look at the house as a character in the film and if you watch the entire movie then you know why.
Knowing the location so well allowed us to be efficient when shooting and move at a rapid pace. We shot a total of 11 days and that’s pretty crazy.
BILLY: Our casting was pretty easy…with a few bumps in the road but that was expected.
Early on I cast Reid Doyle as the lead actor, Albert Poe. He also came on as a very important producer during and after production. We had a lead female cast to play Rose and 2 weeks before production she got a higher paying job that she took (and I couldn’t really blame her) but that opened up the door for us to cast Cari Moskow who did a excellent job as Rose Poe.
Also we had the 2 little girls cast and the night before we were supposed to shoot our first scenes with the girls something came up with them so we had to scramble to find 2 replacement girls. That was stressful but every aspect of an independent film normally is.
It all worked out in the end as we ended up with a great cast…a small cast but a great cast. We stayed true to the final script and didn’t conform to match our cast.
BILLY: We ended up shooting on the Sony FS7 in 4K. We used the Sony A7Sii for a few pickup shots here and there. I love the look of the FS7 camera but it’s not the best camera in low light so that’s why our grip and electric department was so important. And they did not let down either. They were great.
The good thing about owning the house and the camera is that after principal photography of the movie I was able to get a ton of time-lapses and cutaways for my editor that we weren’t able to get during production. So that was a huge bonus. That camera is amazing for what it is and the price.
BILLY: The movie changed a lot in editing. By that I mean that we stayed true to the script but we had an amazing editor by the name of Jesse Andrus who took The Terrible Two, which when we shot was an okay movie, and turned into something that was entertaining, the pace was great, the sound design and music flowed. All of that was very critical to have considering we shot the entire movie in one location.
We tightened up a lot of dialogue, cut out some scenes that were repetitive, and made cuts that kept the action moving and interesting.
BILLY: We have signed with a sales agent, High Octane Pictures, who is currently putting a marketing plan together and in the early stages of shopping the film around to both domestic and international distributors.
We really hope for the best because we feel like we’ve made a movie that could do big things and we’ve proven with this film that you don’t always need millions of dollars and need to be backed by a big Hollywood studio to tell a good story.
BILLY: I can’t really pinpoint the smartest or dumbest thing we did during production. This is very cliché but we assembled such a great and professional crew that we kept the mistakes to a minimum and we were very surgical in how we shot scenes and did things during production.
Every night after we’d shoot I’d sit down and look at the dailies and go through each scene and make sure we’d gotten exactly what we needed from that scene and if not we’d do a quick pickup the next day.
Again on such low money you have to know what you’re doing and be smart about things, if not you could be at risk of having your project tanking and not finishing what you started.
BILLY: The number one thing I learned from this movie was to trust others to do their job. If you get a good crew together and everyone believes in the story, then most likely you are going to make a good movie.
It’s been said often but it’s so true that making a movie is such a collaborative effort. This rang very true on The Terrible Two because I can tell you that both cast and crew worked for peanuts on this movie and took a pay decrease because they believe in film and keeping it alive in this area.
I’m so thankful first and foremost to God and then to my wife Mollie Lewis for allowing us to use the house. Then if it wouldn’t have been for my 2 producers Jonathan Landau and Reid Doyle, along with Dr. Martyn Woleben, then this movie would’ve never seen the light of day.